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Interesting article seems we found someone to direct us to the hidden weapons.....
quote:Saddam's bodyguard warns of secret arsenal
02feb03
SADDAM Hussein's senior bodyguard has fled with details of Iraq's secret arsenal.
His revelations have supported US President George W. Bush's claim there is enough evidence from UN inspectors to justify going to war. Abu Hamdi Mahmoud has provided Israeli intelligence with a list of sites that the inspectors have not visited.
They include:
AN underground chemical weapons facility at the southern end of the Jadray Peninsula in Baghdad;
A SCUD assembly area near Ramadi. The missiles come from North Korea;
TWO underground bunkers in Iraq's Western Desert. These contain biological weapons.
William Tierney, a former UN weapons inspector who has continued to gather information on Saddam's arsenal, said Mahmoud's information is "the smoking gun".
"Once the inspectors go to where Mahmoud has pointed them, then it's all over for Saddam," Tierney said.
Tierney, who has high-level contacts in Washington that go to the White House, said the information we publish today on Mahmoud's revelations "checks out, absolutely checks out".
Mahmoud was a mem ber of the elite unit that protects Saddam.
It is called the Murasiq Qun – the "Inner Circle".
He was known as "The Gatekeeper".
Mahmoud is a muscular Saddam lookalike often photographed standing behind Saddam when he is seated, or to his left when on the move.
Last week, Mahmoud was being debriefed at a high-security base in Israel's Negev Desert.
Ariel Sharon, the country's hard-line prime minister, has only allowed snippets of Mahmoud's sensational claims to be shared with the CIA and MI6.
"Sharon intends to shatter the growing anti-war movement," a source close to Mr Sharon said.
"He plans to call all those European leaders who are wavering to let them know how Saddam has continued to fool Hans Blix and his weapons inspectors."
Mahmoud's revelations include locations of five bunkers buried beneath man-made sand dunes.
Stockpiled in the bunkers are warheads identical to the empty shell cases found two weeks ago by the UN inspectors.
Mahmoud said those shells were on their way to be refilled and stored in the bunkers.
A transcript from his debriefing includes:
"Saddam's weapons of mass destruction are also concealed in a tunnel complex deep beneath the sewers of Baghdad and in an underground complex in Ouja, to the north of Tikrit.
"The complex was built five years ago with help from Chinese engineers.
"The entrance to the site is through a house in Tikrit. It is the home of one of Saddam's cousins and is more than half a mile from where the weapons are stored."
In another excerpt from his debriefing, Mahmoud boasts: "I was inside the innermost circle where Saddam eats and sleeps.
"I was among the handful of bodyguards closest to him.
"Very few people are allowed close to Saddam.
"Many of the TV images you see of him were taken years ago. Most people now only speak to him over the phone. He usually calls them.
"If they have to call him back with information he wants, it is passed through his sons (Uday and Qusay) or (Deputy Prime Minister) Tariq Aziz.
"All those close to him have codes, which they use to access the outer circle. But even they can only come so close to Saddam before there is a cut-off point – the Inner Circle. Even Tariq Aziz is checked to see if he is carrying weapons.
"Saddam knows fortunes are being offered to have him assassinated."
Saddam's paranoia increased after Uday, his eldest son, narrowly escaped assassination when gunmen riddled his car with bullets in 1996. Uday was partially paralysed and uses a wheelchair.
To avoid falling victim to even his own bodyguards, Saddam is a walking arsenal.
"He has concealed guns all over his body," Mahmoud said.
"He also has panic buttons to press if he even suspects somebody is about to attack him."
Israeli intelligence sources have hinted that the deal with Mahmoud included smuggling his family out of Iraq.
Mossad agents have done this before.
At the start of Saddam's reign of terror, they persuaded an Iraqi pilot to fly his Russian fighter to Israel – after spiriting out his wife and children.
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Ya'all listen to Colin this morning. I'm listening to tape delay right now.
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THE E-BOMB HAS been more than a little temperamental in testing, and engineers would still like another year to work out the bugs, but on the first night of the war against Iraq, E-bombs will detonate over President Saddam Hussein’s key command-and-control bunkers in and around Baghdad. If all goes according to plan, lights will blink out, computers will melt down, phones will go silent. Saddam and his lieutenants will be left shivering in silent darkness, alone and waiting to die.
The desired effect of the first night’s bombing, in the expression commonly used by military planners, is “shock and awe.” The overall goal of the American blitz against Iraq will be to so stun and demoralize the Iraqi Army that Saddam’s forces will quickly give up. The Iraqis will realize that resistance is futile and throw down their weapons—or turn them on Saddam. In the first 48 hours of the attack, the United States armed forces are expected to rain some 3,000 precision-guided bombs and missiles on—Iraqi air defenses, command-and-control, WMD sites and “leadership targets,” which is to say they will try to kill Saddam, his sons and their closest followers.
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Thats some funny shit, I like the UN is ineffective and obsolete article too.
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The media coverage of this war is starting to piss me off. A huge sandstorm stops our troop advance for 24 hours and by watching TV you would think we are getting out ass kicked. I saw some statistics last night that we have had 22 KIA and the Iraqi have has close to 20,000. The pentagon down plays Iraqis killed and only reports "confirmed" dead but even if it's 1/2 that number it's pretty one sided. Here are two articles. The first is an interview by Leslie Stall to Colin Powell. Very funny he really took it to her:
One of my favorite quotes from the acticle: A Hellfire missile hitting aT-72 tank -- it is an absolute catastrophic destruction. The turret absolutely separates and blows off a hundred feet in the air, a hundred yards away."
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Where do you get 20,000? That number seems high compared to what I have seen reported. Of course I have no idea because I am also sick of watching war stuff...
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I am not going to site a source because quiet frankly I heard someone on Foxnews say it was close to 35,000 dead. I don't really believe either but think about what these Iraqis are against? That armored column that left Bagdad yesterday got completely slaughtered by B-52's - that's probably 5,000 troops right there. Point is the Iraqis are trying to make it like Samalia and suck us into the cities. When they meet us on the battle field it is like shooting fish in a barrel.
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quote:Originally posted by Klaus: I just saw the price of a Daisy cutter fuel air bomb........$26,500 each...... What a bargain.
I say we drop 40 of those instead of one million dollar Tomahawk
I agree, though we have the new generation of Tomahawk "the Tactical Tomahawk" with controlls to circle in figure eights over its target for hours and from launch to detonation it has compleete user control, and cost about 550,000 - 750,000. More control at a discount. I also like the daisy cutter, its a whole lot of fire for a budget challanged government.
Hackers replaced the English-language Web site for Arab network Al-Jazeera with a U.S. flag and the message "Let Freedom Ring" as seen in this image taken fom a computer Thursday. (CBS/AP)
The page later removed also included the message, "God bless our troops," signed by a self-described "Patriot." There was no response to an e-mail sent to an address on the Web page.
(AP) Hackers on Thursday replaced the English-language Web site for Arab satellite television network Al-Jazeera with a U.S. flag and the message "Let Freedom Ring." Hours later, the site was hacked again by others.
Hackers calling themselves the "Freedom Cyber Force Militia" earlier hijacked Internet traffic destined for Al-Jazeera's Web site and redirected it to a different Web page on computers operated by Networld Connections Inc., an Internet provider in Salt Lake City. That site was shut down hours later.
The likely hacking technique, called "DNS poisoning," fools traffic-directing computers across the Internet, similar to vandalizing exit signs on an interstate to misdirect travelers. It is relatively difficult to defend against.
Internet records show the Web directories sending traffic to Al-Jazeera's site were changed early Thursday, apparently without authorization.
The page later removed also included the message, "God bless our troops," signed by a self-described "Patriot." There was no response to an e-mail sent to an address on the Web page.
"Certainly, it has been hacked," acknowledged Jihad Ali Ballout, a spokesman for Al-Jazeera. He described the attack as "a frontal, vicious attack on freedom of the press" and urged anyone with information about the hackers to contact authorities.
Hours later, the site was redirected again to another Internet provider with the message that it was "taken over by Saimoon Bhuiyan."
The Arab network's Web site has been suffering disruptions for days, ever since it showed pictures of dead and captive U.S. soldiers in Iraq.
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Similar thing (reversed I guess tho) happened to a Kids website here in Homer.
From ADN: Islamic group promotes al-Qaida from Homer Web site HACKERS: Center for Islamic Studies and Research uses teen's Internet bulletin board.
By TOM KIZZIA Anchorage Daily News
(Published: March 27, 2003) HOMER -- A friendly Internet bulletin board run by an Anchor Point high school student morphed last weekend into a worldwide al-Qaida propaganda outpost calling for attacks on the United States in response to the war on Iraq.
The Web site was hacked into by a radical Islamic group that has been moving its Internet site regularly for at least a year. More than 1,000 people used the portal to check al-Qaida's latest views on the war. By Tuesday morning, the alien information had been removed, presumably to nest again in a few weeks on someone else's server.
The brief brush with world events perplexed Garrett Johnson, 17, who set up the Web site in his spare time and works weekends at an Anchor Point service station. He hadn't checked his site in several days. The Arabic pages could no longer be found by the time he started getting calls Tuesday from East Coast reporters and the FBI.
"It was all over before I knew what was going on," Johnson said. "At first I wondered if the FBI was going to be busting down my door wondering if I was al-Qaida related."
Johnson has two relatives in the Navy stationed in the Persian Gulf and hastened to make a point of his patriotism on his Web site.
"I personally would not have anything to do with Alkaida Terrorist Organizations," he wrote. "My Brother and Brother-in-law are all in the military, while my sister is ex-military. I am pro war on Iraq, American born, and I love my country."
Still, he said, he'd been suspicious that something was going on. He'd set up the Web page as a community forum and chat room several months ago and was still adding features and writing code. He had five registered members, including him and his girlfriend. Then on Saturday two new members signed up, both from Saudi Arabia.
"That sort of weirded me out," he said. "I'm thinking, we're having a war over there."
Johnson was the victim of an illegal hacking, said Eric Gonzalez, an FBI special agent based in Anchorage.
"They hack into someone else's site, so that instead of looking at photos of Homer you're looking at al-Qaida propaganda," he said.
Derotha Ferraro, executive director of the Homer Chamber of Commerce, looked at the site Monday night after hearing about it from a Canadian reporter. She said it had "lots of visuals and pictures of Bin Laden."
Ferraro was chagrined that early, and erroneous, news reports described Johnson's site as promoting tourism in Homer.
According to a report Tuesday in the Toronto-based newspaper National Post, the Homer Web site called on Iraqis to draw U.S. soldiers into street fighting, where heavy casualties might cause the American people to lose their stomach for war. It provided links to gruesome photos of what appear to be civilian war casualties. Most of it was written in Arabic.
The site was run by the Center for Islamic Studies and Research, a group described as "the mouthpiece of al-Qaida" by Josh Devon, an analyst with the SITE Institute, a terrorism research group in Washington, D.C.
"This is one of al-Qaida's most important Web sites. Clearly the point is to recruit people to Jihad (holy war)," Devon said. "It regularly issues the al-Qaida leadership's latest communiques."
Johnson's site had been visited 800 times since it was first set up in January. He said he recorded more than 1,400 hits in the day and a half that the site was hijacked by the Islamic group.
The al-Qaida site began appearing on the Internet last year after its predecessor site was hacked into by a U.S. pornographer who found its content offensive. The Web vigilante inserted the message: "Hacked, tracked and now owned by the USA."
For a while the Islamic Center maintained access to its new site through U.S. host companies, but Internet watchdog groups pressed those companies to remove the material. Free-speech rights make it legal to post most such material on the Internet, but private host companies can make their own policies about what's appropriate, Devon said.
"Their content is so radical it borders on what free speech is," Devon said.
Such groups are drawn to the U.S. host companies because their technology is better and, ironically, because the government here pays less attention to political sites than, say, the Saudi Arabian government, Devon said.
Forced underground, the group has taken to hijacking sites every few weeks. The last site used by the Center was for a Netherlands soccer team, Devon said. The Center usually sets up in an obscure folder inside the sites to broadcast its latest newsletters, contacting followers through e-mail and chat rooms to inform them of the latest Web address.
Some security specialists say the site may also be used to send coded messages to followers.
The Arabic Web site has described its own mission as getting out information in a "media war" and combatting U.S. "gag" efforts.
Hacking into many Web sites is not difficult, specialists told the National Post. The systems administrator for Liquid Web, the Lansing, Mich.-based firm that hosts the Anchor Point Web site, complained that problems result when people run Web sites with old versions of software whose security lapses allowed unauthorized access.
"It is like someone leaving the keys in the ignition and their car unlocked and then somebody walking by just jumping in (and) driving away in the car," Matthew Terry told the newspaper. "That kind of content is very hard to detect. I'm upset this keeps happening."
Another Liquid Web site was hacked into last year by the Islamic group. FBI agent Gonzalez said an investigation in Michigan is continuing.
Johnson, a junior at Homer High School, said he taught himself Web page design when he was bored one summer. He said he hopes to go to college in Alaska and study "something to do with computers."
Reporter Tom Kizzia can be reached at tkizzia@adn.com or in Homer at 1-907-235-4244.
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Fuck Jesse Jackson! I mean damn didn't this guy knock up a couple teenagers of something? Why is he still trying to interfere with the United States business.... Posts: 5484 | From: St. Paul, Mn | Registered: Apr 2002
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He wants to form a deligation to go to Iraq and secure the release of the POWs. AKA - He wants to get his name in the media again.
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What a dumb-ass! We are at WAR! Would he have gone to Hitler in 1943 and asked that the Jews be released??? He's treating this like less than a police-action. Our only hope is that Saddam thinks this guy is some sort of leader and has him publically executed, thus bolstering US morale ten-fold...
MIRROR: If Abu Ahkbar, priest of Muslim, came to the US and asked that all the Iraqi POWs be released to return home, would we even consider such a ludicrous idea? Let's keep fighting the same soldiers over and over again. What a retard. Does he think that they favor our Christian God over there? Remember the Crusades? I bet they do.
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quote:Originally posted by Chadwick: I dont think we will ever see "official reports" of total number of iraqis killed, only media conjecture.
Giving out numbrs like that would only by counter productive in multiple ways.
Last night on Fox News the ex-general who is on constantly read an email he received directly from a tank commander in the 3rd armored division. He stated that their division alone has killed over 10,000 Iraqi soldiers. He said that they constantly do suicide rushes at the tanks and APC's and just get mowed down. It went on the describe body parts everywhere and dump trucks full of bodies... I know the penagon has been trying to downplay how many kills there have been, but I would think making this public might make the Iraqis left surrender and make this go smoother. Then again I guess they probably wouldn't get the message because there info minister is still saying the Allies aren't anywhere close to Baghdad. Posts: 5484 | From: St. Paul, Mn | Registered: Apr 2002
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So what do you think the "unconvential action" will be? I am betting the 12yr old Saddams lion cubs attack the airport. Or maybe they have some kind of alien force that will come up from the tunnels under the airport......
IRAQ'S CHILLING WARNING
Iraq has warned it will take unconventional action against US troops at Baghdad International Airport tonight.
Saddam Hussein's information minister said: "Tonight we will carry out something that is non-conventional against them, not military. It will be a great example to them."
It was not clear what Mohammed Saeed al-Sahaf meant by "non-conventional".
Asked if Iraq would use weapons of mass destruction, he said: "No, not at all. But we will conduct kind of martyrdom operations."
US-led forces have been on alert for possible Iraqi use of biological or chemical weapons, which Baghdad denies it possesses.
Iraq's main spokesman warned that US forces are isolated at Baghdad International Airport.
"Unless they surrender quickly, I don't think there's any chance that they will survive," he said.
"We consider it an isolated island. They are completely surrounded."
The US military meanwhile, said it now controls at least 70% of Baghdad's international airport and are flushing out remaining pockets of resistance.
Saddam Hussein has since appeared on Iraqi television urging the people of Baghdad to strike the enemy with force and telling them they will be victorious over invaders.
It is not known when the message was recorded.
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I think it is a hollow threat just like the earlier threat where they said U.S. forces would "burn" in the desert. I think the only things burning in the desert were T-72 tanks! The only other thing I could think of would be a terrrorist attack on U.S. soil.
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I like this article - my favorite quote... "A dump truck even with a 20-millimeter cannon mounted on the back is no match for a Bradley fighting vehicle."
"The Iraqis are employing everything that an irregular force can employ to try to stop the movement toward Baghdad," Rodgers said. "They come charging down the road in the direction of an armored column. A dump truck even with a 20-millimeter cannon mounted on the back is no match for a Bradley fighting vehicle."
He added: "As soon as visual contact is made, the dump trucks, the suicide buses, the pickup trucks are knocked out of existence fairly fast."
By sunrise Friday, the squadron was in the Baghdad suburbs, a few miles from Saddam International Airport, which the coalition is fighting to secure.
Rodgers said a column of about nine Soviet-era tanks and one armored vehicle came at the 3-7th Cavalry. The squadron took out six of the tanks and the armored vehicle, and coalition air support struck the other three.
"The Republican Guard units have disappeared off the scope," Rodgers
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Report: U.S. Finds Missiles with Chemical Weapons Mon April 7, 2003 10:25 AM ET WASHINGTON (Reuters) - U.S. forces near Baghdad found a weapons cache of around 20 medium-range missiles equipped with potent chemical weapons, the U.S. news station National Public Radio reported on Monday. NPR, which attributed the report to a top official with the 1st Marine Division, said the rockets, BM-21 missiles, were equipped with sarin and mustard gas and were "ready to fire." It quoted the source as saying new U.S. intelligence data showed the chemicals were "not just trace elements."
It said the cache was discovered by Marines with the 101st Airborne Division, which was following up behind the Army after it seized Baghdad's international airport.
U.S. Central Command headquarters in Qatar had no immediate comment.
The United States and Britain launched the war against Iraq to rid the country of weapons of mass destruction. Iraq denies having such weapons.
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If this is true, I would consider it the biggest single event of the war so far!!!!
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So now that we have stormed a number of Saddam's palaces. I say we by the end of the War we loot all of his palaces then sell all the shit on ebay and put the money towards the cost of the war....
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Anyone see the tank commander last night on Foxnews about midnight being interview in front of the presidental palace? He said he was going to go into the palace and turn on the brass handled shower and have his first shower in a week....
I would say your idea is good - take down the entire palace and start over - selling everything off as they go. I mean do you think the Iraqis will want to conduct their new government out of the palace Saddam built???
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Well, being that most of his palaces are now blown to rithersmeens. I was just thinking of selling off all the stuff he left behind like the china (if any is intact). Prety much anything that is intact. I want to buy a set of Ivory saddam silverware and have the proceeds go to the us military.
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I'd like to see a picture of a GI taking a shit on Saddam's bed and have it seen around the world via email/the internet...
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quote:Originally posted by Klaus: Anyone else think this guys is as funny as I do? Everytime I see him I laugh and laugh It's like a SNL skit when he talks too....
My favorite quote from this guy:
He branded the British and U.S. leaders "an international gang of criminal bastards," "blood-sucking bastards," ignorant imperialists, losers and fools.
He calls the U.S. and British forces flocks of sheep doomed to die in Iraq or likens them to a snake slithering through the desert that will be chopped into pieces.
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quote:Originally posted by Klaus: Anyone else think this guys is as funny as I do? Everytime I see him I laugh and laugh It's like a SNL skit when he talks too....
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