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who knows, all this anthrax bull-shit may just be some fuck-head american who hates everyone and everything.. or we could just be failing another test that the terrorist fucks have set up...sure there is nothing i can do to change any of this, but i certianly am not going to sit around and act as tho nothing has, or is going on.
i just hope that the states dont start looking like beruit, or gaza, or any of the other cities that have car bombs go off in them on as a weekly event. i dont think that even if those events startes to occur, that there would be any sort of " heightend awarness " by many people. there are many people who have no problem thinking they are isolated and that this stuff doesnt matter because nothing is happening to them directly, which is a total crock of shit, especially if they have some sort of pride in the country and being a US countryman.
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if your not going to put opinions out here, what is your perpose of posting???? or have you masterd the " middle of the road " jargon, and are able to say everything, and not say a word??? i guess i just dont understand what your trying to say,and or what your point was.isnt anything you put out here, your opinion,or idea??
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if your not going to put opinions out here, what is your perpose of posting???? or have you masterd the " middle of the road " jargon, and are able to say everything, and not say a word??? i guess i just dont understand what your trying to say,and or what your point was.
I guess I should have explained myself. Mike and I were talking a couple weeks ago and I asked him why he never posts anything. He said that he preferred to only post once in awhile and I agreed that I do the same thing. I read every post as they come into my email inbox but I rarely have the time to compose a proper response. Plus I tend to react to a lot of the stuff some posters throw out there to get everyone “spooled up” – and choose not to respond to such nonsense. I do take the middle of the road on some issues but have strong opinions on others and would rather talk face to face on those. As you have said in the past – email/discussion forums aren’t always the best form of communication to be fully understood. (sarcasm is tough to get across in a post).
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by the way, your brother,joe and i engaged in some shit-tossing, and all those seem to be missing also..
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Im sure all three of us can brew up some new shit to throw at each other........ Just like the monkeys that we are Posts: 2469 | From: Anchorage, AK | Registered: Oct 2001
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It looks like everything between 10/13 and 10/16 am is gone. The only thing I can think of is that somehow when the board tried to goto post #20 and start a new page something got fucked up.... I don't know WTF happened or why, sorry for the inconvience.
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i dont know what the fbi would find interesting about a bunch of guys talking shit concerning anthrax... especially if they read the angry posts out here on other forums...
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one of my removed posts contained the question to all the smart people out there..
please name me one muslim country that has a modern framework of government, where the people have, at least, a psudo-say/representation, by elected officials, that has a justice system based in right and wrong, and contributes in a POSITIVE way to the world???
im having a hard time.... any ones that support terrorist networks surely cannot be on your list...and that about whipes out any of the muslim nations....
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now I'm not saying this for certain, but I do know that the muslim world is just as prevalent if not more (population-wise) in Asia than the Mid-east. But since you asked I want to say that economics/mfg/textile wise Indonesia is a predominatly muslim country that I think is classified as a industrialized developing country and not exactly a third world nation.... But like I said I don't claim to be a economist or have a universal understanding of global industry..... But since you asked
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To bad Indonesia takes part in the harboring of terrorists. In fact, intelligence has identified terrorist cells that are based in the country. Apparently, Indonesia may be one of the next targets after we are done pounding Afganistan into a smoldering pile of camel shit smelling rubble.
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yes ender, ive heard the same things... besides those fuck-heads sit and yell " death to america " all the time. i dont care how much shit they produce, if they produce or protect shit-bag-terror-fucks, they need to be whiped off the earth... ALL OF THEM! Posts: 771 | From: Farmington | Registered: Oct 2000
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I was ducking from the retort before I even posted that stuff.... The only thing I was unsure of is whether their govt is actually a muslim controlled/dominated entity (like pakistan,india,other parts of S.E. Asia where you have more than one religion)....
Let me guess cramer, fuck'em all?? Right? You asked, I had no opinion on this
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I said this before but unfortunately it got wiped when the server hiccupped or whatever.... Yes there's anthrax out there but what are we as individuals going to do about it???? Do you propose we shoot the bacteria with our guns? It's serious business but it's not a plague, it infects those that come in direct contact with the spores, powder, etc. - it's not like influenza where it spreads rapidly from person to person (contagion). It's upsetting to see this being done but I don't see the value in kicking, screaming and throwing a complete tantrum about it. Once again, our reaction (largely stemming from media hype) is playing directly into the terrorists' hands. I tend to believe that the most important thing one can do in a crisis situation is remain calm and not get overly agitated. Don't be too quick to confuse calm determination with not caring.
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I definatly agree with you on that, steve. The press has hyped up this "crisis" into something much more that is really is. Since i have always thought mathematically about things, the numbers in this case do not reflect any kind of "crisis" stiuation. After THOUSANDS of people being tested over the last week, only 5 have been diagnosed with the actual disease. Out of those 5, only 1 has died. The only other indivitual diagnosed with inhalation anthrax is recovoring. Sure, the fact that anthrax is being used as a weapon this way is a bit disturbing, but this method of its use is not affecting large amounts of people as far as death toll at this time. Caution should be exersized, but I see no need for people to be buying fucking gas masks
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i sure feel better after reading this. i know now that there is nothing to worry about, and no reason to be concerned, and nothing i could do, even if i was to be concerned.
please dont confuse being a smart-ass, with being a dumb-ass.
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are you blind tim??? there is nothing to worry about. the people who really know whats going on said so...
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at what point will you be concerned over the anthrax, how many dead do we need before we could be alarmed??? i would hate to be worried about something that i shouldnt concern myself with. after all, its just anthrax, its not like the plauge or small-pox....
oh, and will you be standing in line to be inoculated with the smallpox vacine, or is that just another over-reaction to a media-hype situation??? i am just wondering..... i clearly do not have the education on these topics, so hopefully someone in the know, can help me out here....
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Hey cramer, arn't you old enough that you've been vaccinated for smallpox??? I thing the last year they did it was 1972.
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now remember i dont know anything about which i speak...
yes joe, im 31. born in 1970. but the people at the CDC have stated that the vacine has " worn off " and EVERYONE will need to be given the " shot ". that is why they have requested 300 million doses....
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Oh..... and that doesn't exactly mean that you were vaccinated, I don't know at what age they would have done it. (You should in theory have a limited resistance to it in least, but I'm sure you'd rather not test it). And of course, I'm not saying I'm a virologist or anything either.
It does seem like the CDC and the D.C. Public Health Officials dropped the ball by not being more proactive with these latest postal employees. But people would have been just as pissed off had they wasted a bunch of our limited cipro supply to treat people without symptoms had something else come up. Its alway easy to criticize given hindsite. In all reality the CDC is a realitively untested/unexperience orginization with regards to this type of public health situ, much less city health officials. Sure they practice drills and simulations, but thats pretty limited experience.... (Check out "THE HOT ZONE", great book, true story which the movie "outbreak" is very-loosely based on. All about the CDC, and a REAL outbreak of airborne ebola in the Baltimore/D.C. area back in the early 90's in a primate research holding center, luckily it only affects lower primates and not humans)....
Guess we should start microwaving our mail, (at least 20 minutes from what I've heard).....
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again, i ask you, at what point will your song change?? what does the death toll need to get to??
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When they get done poisoning the money, will someone please poison all the fucking leftist attorneys that have litigated this country's hands behind its back, taken away its citizens liberties, and made us all fucking criminals!
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Looks like the chemical that has been applied to one of the anthrax strains being used (the "inhaled" strain) that makes it more resiliant and last longer when exposed to the elements could of only come from one-of-three countries Russia, US, or IRAQ.... boy who do ya think Posts: 2469 | From: Anchorage, AK | Registered: Oct 2001
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Iraq's the obvious choice but I still wouldn't discount Russia. I doubt they have anything to do with it being used on the US but they'll f'n sell anything to anyone regardless of who it might be used against. They've recently sold some wicked anti-aircraft missiles to China and Iran that no western fighter, the F-22 included can deal with. Wouldn't suprise me if they were selling chemical/biological (hell, nuclear too) weapons to whoever to make a buck.
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I certainly think its a possibility......and kinda did from the start... I don't see how their ever gonna track those responsible for it down. Have you seen the letters, they do appear to be written as a militant muslim would think/write, but that'd be easy enough to fake to throw the feds off,,,,,,, WHO FUCKING KNOWS..... Posts: 2469 | From: Anchorage, AK | Registered: Oct 2001
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so the anthrax that has been found to be the " potent " stuff, is apparently manufactured here in the good ole usa... fucking great!!!
there is a massive bio/chemical plant in michigan that is the sole contractor/supplier for the military. funny that a couple past presidents sit on the board/ have finacial interests there...
Anthrax bacteria likely to be US military strain
19:00 24 October 01 Debora MacKenzie
The bacteria used for the anthrax attacks in the US is either the strain the US itself used to make anthrax weapons in the 1960s, or close to it. It is not a strain that Iraq, or the former Soviet Union, mass-produced for weapons.
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In a few weeks, this whole anthrax shit will be pinned on "Right-wing extremists" or "militia groups", how fucking convenient. simply one more step to divide the people into two camps, just like they are doing with the world." your either with us, or your with the terrorists " " if you own weapons, you must be a terrorist, since terrorists are the only people who would want to own a weapon " " the government will see to your protection, there is no need for any individuals to own any weapons."
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Perhaps it's just me, Okay, I know it's not Cramer/Pfaff, but as an American citizen didn't I take a silent oath here to defend our hearth and home against all enemies, FOREIGN AND DOMESTIC?
Oh yeah, and I actually TOOK that oath before I joined the Army! How convenient. In this day and age where everything/everybody gets a fucking label so we can justify things I find it pathetic that those who own/use guns and feel increased paranoia, would be labeled a Terrorist. Hmmmmmm, weren't militia units somehow important in the past? What am I thinking of....
I can't wait for the day that those who whine about the right to bear/use arms are looking down the barrel of a gun because they didn't have one to defend themselves with. You and I will be standing victoriously over a steaming pile of DEAD BODIES, smoking a cigarrette, having a beer, getting a blowjob from their girls. That's a good image, eh?
-Boondock
------------------ Pearl Harbor Death Toll: 2,403 Americans vs 270,000 Japanese. WTC Death Toll: 6,000 Americans vs ??? -I say kill em all-
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