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well,

DO YOU???


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Yes, but only through a #11 welding lens. Otherwise your head will burst into flame and people will roast chickens over it.
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roast chickens???
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It's from an old SNL skit when Dana Carvey used to play Grumpy Old Man on the Weekend Update (when it was still Dennis Miller).

"In my day, we didn't have movie pictures. There was only one show in town, it was called stare at the sun. You'd go out in a field and stare at the sun until your eyeballs burst into flame. And you'd say 'oh no, I guess I shouldn't of stared wide-eyed into the blazing sun' but it was too late, your head was on fire and people were roasting chickens over it! That's the way it was and WE LIKED IT!"

Classic SNL.

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"and we used to eat sand -----And WE LIKED IT~!!!!!!"
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The sun sure is bright today, did anyone else notice? I wonder if it is because it is hotter now?
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Sir, please don't say bad things about the Sun. The Sun is as much a part of Mother Earth as the Trout Streams and all the little creatures on this wonderful place. Also, in many of your posts I have noticed that your words tend to have anger and violence as an undertone. This does nothing to end world hunger and wars.
As I'm sure your aware an individuals soul purpose in this world is to leave it a better place than one would find it. With this in mind I would appreciate it if you would stop this slanderous campaign against the Sun lighten the tone of your posts some. Oh, and please vote DFL!

Please have a safe and wonderful day.

Enjoy the Sun, it is your friend!

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IT is UNBELIEVABLY HOT HERE, well, its not hot per-say, but its hot for Alaska in November. The Avg date for first snow in Anchorage is Oct 14th, we're long past that. We've had no snow here, and there's really no snow till you get above 4000ft. It was frigid here this time last year, and we're still in the mid 40's and our daily lows for the last month are above our avg. daily HIGHS for this time of year.

I'm not suggesting ANYTHING cartmen so don't go there, just and observation. [knife]

I won't see the sun for a few more hours so I cant tell if its brighter or not [Roll Eyes] [Wink]

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[lol] [lol] [lol] [lol] [lol] [lol] [lol] [jester] Mikey!
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"More proof of global warming"

[ 11-07-2002, 11:14: Message edited by: Klaus ]

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quote:
Originally posted by Klaus:
"More proof of global warming"

Just like how it's unseasonably cold here and we've already had snow 3 times. Good proof for global warming. [Roll Eyes]

Global warming is the biggest fallacy the enviros ever came up with. They just discovered like a month ago the the hole in the ozone is half the size it was just 10 years ago and the thickness of the polar ice caps are increasing in size. I believe the whole thing is cyclical. The earth has probably been getting warm and cold for 10's of millions of years. Or for you religious folks since god created eve from adam, what was that like 4-5000 years ago? [Roll Eyes]

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The Climate WILL CHANGE, its not static and never will be!

There WILL be more glaciations on the planet!

The oceans will rise, the oceans will fall.

Alaska once had dinosaurs. Utah was once a tropical forest with a giant inland sea - its now desert.

The current trend is that the global climate is warming. That doesn't mean you won't have early winters here, or there, or indian summers here or there.

Alaska Glaciers are the smallest they've ever been in know human record, and the rate at which they're receeding is unprecidented (this is something ANYONE can just go look at, not the rate, but the current location vs. previous). Glaciers directly effect weather and snowfall patterns here, just like the lake effect in Utah and Duluth (local to the particular glacier, but some of our glaciers/icefields are bigger than some eastern states)

DID I SAY ANYWHERE THAT WE CAUSED THIS unilaterally ???
NO! [brd] [finger]

[ 11-07-2002, 12:38: Message edited by: Jomama ]

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My point exactly! We didn't cause this, the CURRENT trend is global warming. Now if it is truly cyclical, and by this the cycle might take 10,000 years to complete, we eventually will get back to global cooling and the threat of glaciers taking over.

We might be able to see the movement of the glaciers, but the human record is not very old, so again if this is a cycle we are just on a downswing and all will be good and dandy in a mere couple thosand of years.

[Big Grin] [brd] [finger] [Big Grin]

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posted by " posting fraud "

" The current trend is that the global climate is warming. That doesn't mean you won't have early winters here, or there, or indian summers here or there."

You DO NOT HAVE A SINGLE SHRED OF TANGIBLE EVIDENCE TO THIS, SO SHUT HE FUCK UP!!!!

You can watch " in search of " with Leanord Nemoy, and they have an episode that goes into great detial of " the comming ice age " so just stop with this shit!!!

There is not any records from the beginning of time, and if YOU want to run off just the last 100 years, that is fine, but I do not buy it for and instant.

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Especially since the earth's cycles of this mater are like closer to 100,000 years anyway arn't they?
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Who knows, but I assume it's longer than written history.

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[Roll Eyes] [Roll Eyes]

I won't debate the validity of the science with you, if you want to be an O.J. Simpson juror, thats your choice. But there is relatively accurate data going back farther than 100 yrs, look it up yourself if want, if not, I don't care, see: Ice Coring, if you choose not to accept the science, that again, is your choice.

With regard to the glaciers receding, it is based on only a 100+yrs of human record, yes. But if you've ever been at the foot of a glacier, you'd understand better what I'm talking about, they leave specific features behind as they recede called morain's and these are quite obvious and can easily be used to gage a rate of receeding.

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quote:
Originally posted by Chadwick:
Especially since the earth's cycles of this mater are like closer to 100,000 years anyway arn't they?

Personally, I don't particularly see a true cyclic nature in nature. Its too many variables (but that doesn't make it totally random or unpredictable). Cycles occur for sure, but I've never read any scientific documentation that we're on some strict climatic cycle..............
Its all fluid, never static, and I don't believe cyclic (especially when variables are removed or changed, i.e. species, vegetative compositions of an area, etc.........

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I know some of the science behind it, i of course am no expert, but i have read enough and had classes to make an educated opinion regarding it.

I know the glaciers are receding, but it is nothing to be in dire straits about, my belief is that this is part of the cycle and they will come back. Maybe not the extent of the Ice Age, but they will gradually grow in size once the global cooling period of the cycle starts many moons from now.

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And by the way, have we already seen any traumatic effects from the so called global warming. They talk about all the things that's going to happen(speculation), but do we have any evidence that things have happened besides the glaciers receding.

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quote:
Originally posted by Crack_Dealer:
........but it is nothing to be in dire straits about.....

[Confused] [Confused] [Confused]

No worries if your not refering to me, but did I say or imply in any way that we should be?

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No, I'm just talking generally.

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Only Cartman could start an argument by stating "It's sunny today."

That in itself is funny shit. [lol] [lol] [lol]

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quote:
Originally posted by Jomama:
But if you've ever been at the foot of a glacier, you'd understand better what I'm talking about, they leave specific features behind as they recede called moron's and these are quite obvious and can easily be used to gage a rate of receeding.

HOLY SHIT! I just dont get it then. If glaciers leave a bunch of these things behind as they receed then i don't get why the leftie's/greenies are so concerned about global warming. You would think they would encourage it! Because, if enough of these get left behind thenthen maybe they would win an election!!! [Razz] [Razz] [Eek!] [Eek!] [lol] [lol] [Roll Eyes] [Roll Eyes]
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That is some funny shit. I never realized Chadwick possessed humor. [lol] [lol] [Big Grin] [Big Grin] [lol] [lol]

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quote:
Originally posted by Crack_Dealer:
Only Cartman could start an argument by stating "It's sunny today."

That in itself is funny shit. [lol] [lol] [lol]

FINALLY!!!!

at least one person gets it....

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I knew SOMEONE would key in on that word and change it, nice chad. [Wink] [lol] [lol] [lol] [lol] [lol] [lol]

Snows of Kilimanjaro......
http://www.cnn.com/20 02/TECH/science/10/17/kilimanjaro.thaw.ap/index.html

The science seems valid, but again, that dosen't mean you (or I) have to support the conclusions based upon the data.....

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quote:
Originally posted by Jomama:
[QUOTE]Personally, I don't particularly see a true cyclic nature in nature. Its too many variables (but that doesn't make it totally random or unpredictable). Cycles occur for sure, but I've never read any scientific documentation that we're on some strict climatic cycle..............
Its all fluid, never static, and I don't believe cyclic (especially when variables are removed or changed, i.e. species, vegetative compositions of an area, etc.........

EVERYTHING, in nature is cyclical. Simply because it is governed by the same physics as anything else. It is called harmonics and is the simplified formula for any system. As with anything any outside influence can change the dynamics of the system like frequency/amplitude/andphase. So if that's what you mean by fluidity then you may be right. But even we do not have any ultimate impact on the climactic cycles of the earth. Now the sun going supernova might just cause an "impact". But it would be a VERY cool one. [lol] [lol] [lol] [lol]
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FUCK! Im arguing with someone 3000 miles away about the environment again! Kill me.
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Wow - look at the big brain on Chad!!!!

That post was like 80% buzz words...ding ding ding

What about the "time space continum"?

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Supernova, would be an interesting event.

I don't exactly disagree chad, I'm not a climatologist, and don't know what one would say about longterm cyclic weather patterns.
However,it has been my experience that nature is fluid over time, and not contstrained to just a cyclic nature (mabey I should specify, a strictly identical repeating cycle). In the grand scheme of things I think the fluidity is a larger factor than cycles, because the fluidity is evolution in action.

The best example I have of fluidity is the concept of species. Its a human "idea" or concept in order to easily catagorize the creatures of the planet, but it doesn't really have a true static representation in nature, because nature is always evolving. There wasn't a Wooly mammoth that all of a sudden gave birth to a modern elephant, its always fluid and always changing and never static. Each birth is one step closer to the next evolutionary level regardless of how insignificant the change.

So thats where I don't agree that its strictly a re-occuring cycle, cause if the cycles long term, by the time it cycles around again, the variables have change (or evolved to a diff species, or a exticnt species is replaced by a invasive, etc...), so its not the same cycle anymore?????
Right???

Looking back at this though, we're probably talking about differnt concepts.

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quote:
Originally posted by Chadwick:
FUCK! Im arguing with someone 3000 miles away about the environment again! Kill me.

[lol] [lol] [lol] [lol] [lol] [lol]

Come'on, thats not really arguing is it????

Although I'm sure Klaus would say anytime anybody talks to me its an argument.... [finger] [Wink]

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Excerpt from Kilimanjaro article Joe posted:

Lake Chad, for instance, grew until it covered 135,000 square miles, about the size of the present day Caspian Sea. The African lake now is only about 6,500 square miles.

First off very appropriately named, (they could have called it Big Lake Chad). But if history repeats itself Chad's head will shrink to normal size. Maybe that is cyclical in nature also. [Big Grin] [Big Grin]

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quote:
Originally posted by Crack_Dealer:
Excerpt from Kilimanjaro article Joe posted:

Lake Chad, for instance, grew until it covered 135,000 square miles, about the size of the present day Caspian Sea. The African lake now is only about 6,500 square miles.

First off very appropriately named, (they could have called it Big Lake Chad). But if history repeats itself Chad's head will shrink to normal size. Maybe that is cyclical in nature also.

[lol] [lol] [lol] [weep] [lol] [weep] [lol]

Thats just toofuckingfunny B.....

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quote:
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quote:
Originally posted by Chadwick:
FUCK! Im arguing with someone 3000 miles away about the environment again! Kill me.

[lol] [lol] [lol] [lol] [lol] [lol]

Come'on, thats not really arguing is it????

Although I'm sure Klaus would say anytime anybody talks to me its an argument.... [finger] [Wink]

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quote:
IT CERTIANLY IS NOT AN EDUCATED EXCHANGE BY EDUCATED PEOPLE.......
[Roll Eyes] [Roll Eyes] [Roll Eyes] [Roll Eyes]
Whateverfucknut

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Well, i certainly didn't know what i was talking about, but when do I?
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quote:
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IT CERTIANLY IS NOT AN EDUCATED EXCHANGE BY EDUCATED PEOPLE.......
Whateverfucknut
careful jomoma/posting fraud...you are giving martin a run for his money in the crybaby dept...
[weep] [weep] [weep] [weep] [weep] [weep] [weep] [weep]

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