Then read the response letter from one of the animal rights crazies:
------------ Gordon, What a bunch of gobbledy gook. You said it all when you said "dispensing death is God's business". And as I recall there is nowhere that God made us instruments of His trade.(by the way, His should be capitalized). God did not create these animals for man to kill, to treat cruelly, or to figure himself out by killing them. Did you ever think that these animals may not want to be sacrificed in order to contribute to your learningyears.
If you feel that you must face the realilties of your eating meat just go to your neighborhood slaughterhouse and watch the frightened animals who are not always stunned and get skinned and cut up while still alive, or chickens that are dropped in boiling water while still alive. And if you have any kind of humanity you will become a vegetarian on the spot.
But oh no, that is not what you want. You want to murder something, to personally suck the life out of one of God's beautiful animals. You can cry all you want, but you still will have killed an innocent creature. And what will you have proven at the expense of this animal who never had a chance against you and your high powered weapon? Not that you are responsible, not that life is the cause of death, but only that you have directed your curiosity in the wrong direction, That you have chosen rather to do harm rather than doing something helpful and worthwhile.
Call it whatever you want, describe it anyway you feel comfortable, but it is still murder you are contemplating.
Marla Powers ------------
Gordon's Response:
Marla,
It is probably best if I take this line by line, since I cannot type very well and don't know your phone number. (Give it to me, real hard.)
What a bunch of gobbledy gook. You said it all when you said "dispensing death is God's business". And as I recall there is nowhere that God made us instruments of His trade.(by the way, His should be capitalized).
You are correct in that His is conventionally capitalized. How do you figure that, if there is a God, we are never instruments of his doing? What was St. Francis talking about in his famous prayer? What was the Old Testament God doing when directing men to sacrifice animals and sons? Where are you getting this God has never used humans for anything business?
God did not create these animals for man to kill, to treat cruelly, or to figure himself out by killing them.
On what basis do you claim this?
Did you ever think that these animals may not want to be sacrificed in order to contribute to your learningyears.
I don’t think they have any opinion on it because it hasn’t been evidenced that they have opinions whatsoever. I don’t think they conceptualize things such as sacrifice and courage and evil and innocence. Those are human conceptualizations.
I feel for people who are so passionate about animals, but often times they are running on blind emotion and not harsh reality. I see many do what you have done; ascribe human characteristics to animals yet hate the humans from whence the characteristics came. Only humans can be noble, kind, evil, merciful, and sadistic. Often times all in the same evening.
If you feel that you must face the realilties of your eating meat just go to your neighborhood slaughterhouse and watch the frightened animals who are not always stunned and get skinned and cut up while still alive, or chickens that are dropped in boiling water while still alive. And if you have any kind of humanity you will become a vegetarian on the spot.
I think meat eaters should go to slaughterhouses. And if she sees torture going on she should stop the torture, not just quit eating meat. I don’t agree with someone who would choose the methods which you have described.
But oh no, that is not what you want. You want to murder something, to personally suck the life out of one of God's beautiful animals.
Murder and killing are two different things. Yes I want to do the killing myself because I think it keeps me from being sheltered to the dirty business of being a meateater. I know you agree with this because you too want people to go to the slaughterhouses for themselves and not just happily eat meat without facing the dirty realities of it.
You can cry all you want, but you still will have killed an innocent creature.
Take out the word innocent and I agree with you.
And what will you have proven at the expense of this animal who never had a chance against you and your high powered weapon?
How much of a chance do you want him to have? I think that if killing must be done, the animal should be killed as effectively and quickly as possible. This is why I am uncomfortable with bowhunts. Sure it seems more sporting than the rifle but it also seems to give a less sure chance of instant death. In all the hunting footage I have seen, I have never seen an animal drop instantly with a broadtip. Hypothetical- If you had to feed your babies by killing meat, how even would you truly want the odds to be? Animals have a natural advantage over humans physically. They evolved that way and are far superior. Humans however, evolved too, but mentally. An animal predator will use all of his advantages to make his kill and we do not fault him for that. The human predator is the only animal that self-imposes any sort of restraint in the hunt: the rules of fair chase. The same way a cougar will use his evolved tool set for killing, so does man in the form of his smarts and the products of those smarts.
Not that you are responsible, not that life is the cause of death, but only that you have directed your curiosity in the wrong direction, That you have chosen rather to do harm rather than doing something helpful and worthwhile.
It is so tiring and hypocritical for animal rights people to claim this love of life but kill life at will as long as it is plant life. Do you think that the plant wants to be sacrificed to contribute to your learning years? Or do you get confused by the fact that animals are sentient and more like us? Whatever that magic spark of life is that separates the living from the dead, it is in plants the same way it is in animals, and it is egocentric to think that an animal possesses more of it just because we can see ourselves in them.
Like it or not, man has evolved as the parent of the planet and it is an awful responsibility. If we choose never to kill, then we die and that is killing too. If God did not give us the right to take animal life, how are we justified to kill an example of the most complex animal of all, our own selves? You could save a lot of life by killing yourself, but is that right? Think of all the plants killed for your benefit; think of all the animals that had to die to let you ride in a car and have electricity. Think of how your life is an exploitation of death from cradle to grave and then tell me how the interconnectedness of the world is not dependant on this sad cycle of life and death. I know it is unpleasant but it is necessary.
I don’t mind you riding a high horse as long as you know that you are on one, and that he is well fed. And when the time comes for him to die, I hope you don’t leave him out in the barn, away from view, to let “nature take it’s course” when you could be a responsible instrument in that "nature," and go put a bullet through his head and end his suffering.
Call it whatever you want, describe it anyway you feel comfortable, but it is still murder you are contemplating.
I don't believe it is murder. Save some of this passionate love of animals for humans, who are animals too, and probably need your help a helluva lot more than a white tail.
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I think I head the lettuce from my salad scream when I took a bite last night! This animal activist shit is becoming a religion...
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