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I think I remember on the last election that there was a Minnesota site where somewhat real-time results were posted. Does anyone know where that is?
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Looks like Kerry has it wrapped up. Hopefully, they can call the election by... what 10pm?
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Shiet... Despite the exit data, if they have it wrapped up by the 11th I'll be pleasantly surprised. I think they said Ohio doesn't even have to report their vote-count until then.
But I'm sure most people would be very relieved (on both sides) to have some idea by tomorrow that at the least we're not gonna have a repeat of 2000....
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It is going to be a worse legal mess than 2000. Not something I want, but with both sides having thousands of lawyers at the ready it is bound to be a total cluster fuck.
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quote:Originally posted by Chadwick: It is going to be a worse legal mess than 2000.
Only if its truely close. Watch what happens with Ohio, that will be this years Florida if it happens.
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I have also been hearing and reading about ohio but florida has fixed near nothing in 5 years from what it sounds like. I think everyone hopes that it will not be close.
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Florida, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Virginia (significant electoral votes, once these are decided it'll be over)
and Colorado & Nevada (but they have significantly less Electoral votes)....
I'm hearing more problems associated with unprecidented voter turnout. Having to get more ballots to vote locations, etc.... May be a record year for turnout.
I had a line of a half hour, not a biggie, but the last two votes I've done here I've walked right in with practically nobody there...
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As I was saying a few weeks ago and have heard more times since then...
There is more than just a posibility that Bush could win the popular vote but lose the election. Winning florida and losing ohio could definetly make that happen.
The more I watch tonight the more I think that that might actually happen.
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I think I heard Pat Buchanan (sp?) the other day talk about the very very rare chance of a 270 270 tie.. Prez is voted on by the Senate (Rep), and the VP by the House (he added the "possibility" of a Dem takeover via this election) and they elect John Edwards He was openly speculating and just brought it up as a interesting point.
If anything really needs to be changed its the election system.
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Fox just projected Bush to win Ohio......3 elect. votes to go..... Alaska may be the difference.
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I noticed Fox and ABC are predicting earlier than the others. Its close, much more close than that exit pole (why is it sooo off? ). I doubt Alaska will be the key, if Bush Takes Ohio, Kerry pretty much has to take all the rest. That would put Bush at 266 I think.
Regardless of who wins, voter turnout is outstanding, nice change... so Yeah! Americans! Voting is just something so unique and important to this country..
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Fox has bush at 269 and has for about 1/2 an hour.
MN is closer than it has been all night and precincts are lagging in reportin compared to WI and IA.
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quote:Originally posted by Chadwick: Fox just said Daschle is losing by almost 70k votes...
This was a race I hand't caught till the last few days.
I don't really understand the "drastic" turnaround of a relatively long term incumbant in this particular case... (all rehtoric aside ;-) I'm not a fan of him at all as well) But even you guys prolly don't hear much about S.D. politics....
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I think dashle lost touch with south dakota. Got tainted by liberal national politics. Just my guess. Having visited SD a number of times. People there seem very different from a typical metro area minnisotan. Even in the "major cities" there....
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Dashle has been on borrowed time for the last six years. I am surprised he stayed around for as long as he did - being in a big republican state...
Ohio is the big story - the Dems are contesting it already.
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FOX has for some reason had Hawaii called for Kerry most of the night for some reason but they are the only ones. I doubt bush would win down there but it is just interesting to call it so early. I think poles closed there like an hour ago or something....
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I hung in there until a little after 2:30. After it became apparent that Kerry would not be conceding I went to bed.
My favorite headline this morning "Florida didn't screw it up!"
I am glad to see that there is (or will be) a clear winner this time. Bush got over 50% of the popular vote - the last time this happened was 1988 (Bush SR.). He also got more votes then Regan, although that's probably a function of the population increasing.
The exit polling company should be fired. In fact the major networks should get a refund from these ass-clowns. When Drudge posted the early results with Kerry ahead in every battleground state around noon - all the major networks were setting up for a Kerry landslide. The market tanked on the news and the Bush camp was in crisis mode. Then I heard Drudge on Hannity's radio show running down the same numbers from 2000 - which had Gore ahead in exit polls 5pts in Florida/3pts in Ohio. After that I was optimistic it would be a race......
Best coverage in my opinion - Foxnews (first to call the exit polls crap) and MSNBC (I thought Chris Matthews was fair). Worst - CNN (refused to call Ohio even though it's statistically impossible to win for Kerry)
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quote:Originally posted by Klaus: The exit polling company should be fired. In fact the major networks should get a refund from these ass-clowns. When Drudge posted the early results with Kerry ahead in every battleground state around noon - all the major networks were setting up for a Kerry landslide. The market tanked on the news and the Bush camp was in crisis mode.
Agreed.
They were lighting up Zogby on my drive home. I think they quote was "shameless".
Ah well, another 4 years of Bush's antics...maybe we'll go to war with Libya and Iran.
Kerry is in a tough situation today for sure. Late afternoon yesterday when it appeared if the exit polls were correct he would win. He came out and gave a quick speech pretty much saying he hoped the loser would be gracious etc. Now of course he was talking about Bush - but it turns out he's the one that needs to be gracious. If he challanges in Ohio where there is little hope of overcoming the 130,000 vote gap he won't look very gracious......
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Either Bush called Kerry to urge him to concede or Kerry just called Bush to concede....
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Our voting took place in a little house on the prairie schoolhouse (city hall). I shit you not that we got our piece of paper with the candidates and our pencil and got to go behind the sheets to vote. I know I live in BFE now...
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quote:Originally posted by Hauserdaddy: Our voting took place in a little house on the prairie schoolhouse (city hall). I shit you not that we got our piece of paper with the candidates and our pencil and got to go behind the sheets to vote. I know I live in BFE now...