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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Trany: [QB] [QUOTE]Originally posted by Jomama: [qb] [QUOTE]Originally posted by Mikey: [qb] I think many people loose sight of the fact that rich people are priveledged and that's just the way it is. [/qb][/QUOTE]Yes, all these folks are just spontaniously rich & priviledged, and they're that way because thats the way god wants it... :rolleyes: Heaven forbid anyone give back to the society that allowed them to become so "privilidged".... :rolleyes: This country is all about greed and consumption and the next pop culture fad... :rolleyes: edit: I forgot gross apathy, couch potato ignorance, and dilusional self importance....[/qb][/QUOTE] :confused: Wash your eyes clean of the liberal goo hazing them to an opaque white. The "priveledged" are giving back to society. Call me crazy but don't the rich run companys? Oh yea they do. So its not like they are creating jobs with benefits and comprable wages. The middle class is the greed and lust full class. Give the middle class a tax cut and you will see spiners on brand new escilades.(I guess thats considered a pop culture fad) Health care reforme is needed, but in a drastic measure. Medicare and Medicaid have fucked your premiums. I belive that Medicare pays something like 2/3's or less of the value, it is not even a sliding fee system. For example: John Doe needs to take an ambulance to the hospital for a chief complaint of chest pain. Patiant Doe recives ALS care from your local ambulance provider and is transported 10 miles to the closest appropriate medical facility. If John Doe pays cash it is roughly $1000. Not bad if his ticker is shot. While Medicare will pay a little under $600. for the exact same service. So in essance Medicare can be used as a free and discounted taxi downtown to the savy savers who recive it. Insurace companys can negotiate the fees they pay, but not medicare, It is a fixed rate. If John Doe was blessed with a nice insurance policy then he might get off with a nice $120 out of pocket expense. How do hospitals and clinics recoup these hard defined losses due to the inadaquate prices of medicare? They charge insurers more...... who pass the cost onto the consumer. That nice taxi/ambulance ride John Doe took downtown could cost $1200 next time. It is the "handout" system that is fucked. Not the insurance companys. They need to cover the cost of the underpaying fedral program. I personally have a catastrophic policy with dental. I have some absured $250 out of pocket per visit with a 10 or 15k annual cap. All for $110 a month. I dont use it, I just have it in case I saw off my leg or staple my penis to a desk. I also carried a "married(man and wife)" policy when I was working independantly, it was with BCBS and cost me $440 a month with a $20 copay. It was a little steep but, I made roughly 2k biweekly and payed $220 to BCBS. So please tell me again why the "priveledged" need to pay more to this system? I COBRA'd my plan when I was unemployeed 5x's durring the end of the Clinton era. I never put my hand out. I saved money and diped into my savings to pay the bills. The solution is to disolve the Medicare and Medicaid plague that is the bane of the insurance industry. [/QB][/QUOTE]
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