When is the first work weekend??
Thanks Steve
Tech Inspection Guidelines
Items with *s are required.
Also see “Additional Rules” on the reverse side of this page
STEERING AND LINKAGE
* Steering box and linkage cannot be loose when
turning steering wheel.
BRAKES AND LINES
* Must have front & rear brakes.
* No pinion brakes.
* Lines must be secured to the axle and/or frame.
LUG NUTS
* No more than 1 of 5 or 2 of 8 missing per tire.
**SECURE PLACE TO HOOK
Must have at least one of the following front and rear:
* Hook secured with two 1/2” or bigger, grade 5 or better
bolts. (Backing plates highly recommended.)
OR
* Receivers can be used following these requirements:
vehicles with a gross weight over 4,000 lbs. must have
a minimum 2” receiver; vehicles with a gross weight
under 4,000 lbs. must have a minimum 1-1/4” receiver.
All receivers must be properly bolted with grade 5 or
better bolts. You may be required to remove any other
style hitch.
* Unsafe hooks must be removed.
* Must remove trailer ball - NO trailer ball on trail.
Screw type clevis permitted in rear bumper if bumper
is secured properly to the frame (must be bolted with
grade 5 or better bolts).
* Cannot hook to cross member.
* Cannot hook to spring, axle, or shackle.
SUSPENSION SYSTEM & U-BOLTS
* No threaded rod for U-bolts.
* No suspension damage.
* No lift blocks between front axle housing and front
spring.
BATTERY MOUNT
* Must be O.E.M. style or equivalent. No wire, rubber,
or nylon straps allowed.
* Battery must not move.
EXHAUST SYSTEM
* Must have mufflers attached to engine, no open
headers or straight pipes.
ADDITIONAL SAFETY FEATURES:
* Loose objects in vehicle and bed of truck must be
secured.
* Floor boards must be able to protect passengers from
bodily injury.
First Aid Kit.
Skid plate under gas tank.
Working CB Radio
SEAT BELTS
* Required for all passengers.
* Must be properly anchored.
ROLL BAR OR NON-REMOVABLE HARD TOP
* Vehicles with full removable top and previously rolled
trucks must have roll bar secured with 3/8” or bigger
grade 5 or better bolts.
* Body mounted roll bars must have backing plates at
mounting point.
* Vehicles with unsound body structure, fiberglass and
aluminium bodies must have a roll bar frame-mounted
at a minimum of 4 points with a minimum of three 3/8”
or bigger, grade 5 or better bolts.
* Must have at least 1 3/4” diameter bar for main loop
and kickers; no well pipe or exhaust tubing.
* The main bar must be continuous loop with no welding.
* Kickers (roll bar supports) must be at least half way up
or higher. Must have kickers.
* Roll bars must have inspection hole.
FIRE EXTINGUISHER
* Minimum 2 pound, type ABC
* No halon.
* Must be securely mounted in a quick-release mounting
bracket within reach of seat-belted driver.
* Must be fully charged.
* Gauge style only, no push button type.
BRAKE PEDAL PRESSURE
* Tested not running. Pedal cannot be spongy or sink
to floor; brakes must have pressure.
TOW STRAP REQUIRED
* 2” minimum, 4” maximum, 10,000 pound minimum
rating. No ropes over 1-1/2 inch diameter.
* Strap must be in good shape; no excessive tears or
fraying.
* Cannot have hooks attached to the strap.
* No chains.
* No metal splicing between straps.
CLEVIS
* Must be screw type, 1/2 inch or bigger - no pin type
clevises.
* 1/2 - 7/8 inch clevis must have stamped 10,000 lb.
rating
* Must have adequate size clevis for the vehicle.
* No converted pin-type clevis.
MISC:
* No visible fluid leaks on vehicle.
* No antennas over 48 inches.
MN ORV Sticker.
All vehicles must go through this inspection prior to trailrides.
For those needing fire extinguishers, tow hooks,
clevises, straps, etc., there will be a private vendor
with a parts trailer near the inspection area.
**To comply with our insurance requirements,
the Rally Master, Co Rally Master or any safety
committee member will have authority to make
final decisions on any questionable vehicle
equipment.
I've read the rules and been passed three times.
Take your lego's and pound them and two handfulls of sand up your ass. Go play somewhere else if you don't like the way things are.
Rules are in place so that people who barely have a pulse let alone can breath, are allowed to be " included " in this " sport ",
Please Chad, if you feel THIS strongly about saftey and idiots, why do you not join the club and use all of your engineering knoledge to make a " better " saftey program???
Quit your pissin' and moanin'....
if it's not dust, its the cold, rainy weather...or " unfair " rules....
waht is next??? I can hardley wait...
oh the similarities between you and that fucking rusti wallace....whaaa whaaaa whaaaa
quote:
Originally posted by Chadwick:
The rules were developed by idiots...with no fundamental technical knowlege on the subject of static loading failure from either shear stress, bending moment, torsional loading, or normal stress.I've read the rules and been passed three times.
Yes,
those same " idiots " passed your truck how many years, and now its become an issue..
it is the SAME shit that EVERYONE at one point or another has gone through with something...
quit your crying, and FIGURE SOMETHING OUT
MR ENGINEER GUY!!!!!
or sell the fucking thing and go back to that " real cool " street racing thing....
" those special effect sceenes with the nitros running through the engine was soooooooooooo cool " what fucking ever...
Whats the differnce between whining and challanging the fucking rules or laws or beliefs anywhere in life when you KNOW they are flawed or simply don't belive in them. You are always a proponent of quesioning the answers so do YOU, a very experienced person, 100% agree with his decision to fail my truck!!!!!?????? If you do it better only be because you are following the rules blindly!
I challenge this and am very mad about it because i HAVE the technical knowlege to analyze mathmatically the system in question and DETERMINE what is the stronger design. I HAVE the training and background! Do they, DO YOU!!!!! I'm more than a little sick of "people" completely discounting my "peice of paper" from the university as nothing!!!! It is NOT nothing. It does not mean NOTHING! AND it is NOT everything. Combined with the experience i gain everyday from very smart people LIKE YOU and MY OWN MISTAKES and SUCCESSES i hope it does mean something more and more everyday. But it did and DOES mean something as it did the day i graduated! It means that i have spend COUNTLESS hours performing THOUSANDS of calculations LEARNING how to anaylize a mechanical system OF ANY TYPE!!!!(HVAC,MANUFACXTURING,LOADED MEMBERS,STATIC AND DYNAMIC SYSTEMS, THERMAL SYSTEMS, FLUID POWER SYSTEMS.....ETC ETC ETC.)
Again is it SOOO bad for me to challenge the people in power making decissions!!!! You belive in doing so every day in other situations why is this so different!!!!! In this situation its something i have some knowlege about so i belive i have a firm leg to stand on when challengeing this. Much more that who ever the fool was that decieded randomly that 1/2 grade 5 was the be all end all size bolt that HAD to be used!!!!!
Yes i make mistakes just like everyone else....but when it comes to making a recomendation for a mechanical system as an engineer i do everything in my power to be right and make the best recomendation/design possible.
It may seem like i don't think like this all the time but quietly i do!!! I think everytime i do something to my truck and choose a bolt size or grade. Or add support to a bumper how it will hold up and how "strong" it will be.
It really made me angry his arguments and reasoning for failing my truck. So FUCK him and FUCK everyone else that thinks that my ARB BULLBAR mounting system will fail before a strap would break or the bar would come apart. Because I KNOW otherwize.
I MAY JUST JOIN THE CLUB AND TRY TO MAKE PEOPLE UNDERSTAND THAT THE RULES ARE FLAWED AND IMPROVE SAFETY FOR EVERYONE.
quote:
Originally posted by cramer:those same " idiots " passed your truck how many years, and now its become an issue..
it is the SAME shit that EVERYONE at one point or another has gone through with something...quit your crying, and FIGURE SOMETHING OUT
MR ENGINEER GUY!!!!!
or sell the fucking thing and go back to that " real cool " street racing thing...." those special effect sceenes with the nitros running through the engine was soooooooooooo cool " what fucking ever...
And going around in a circle is SOOO much cooler???
The fact that my truck passed and then failed with the SAME exact setup only PROVES my point, in that the rules lack support and consistancy.
The reason i have done nothing so far is i was hopping that i could take the easy route and just have it teched my someone else. If that dosn't work ill take further steps in challenging the ruleing with backup calculations. So im not just whining, im doing something about it and taking my actions one step at a time....
Put two fucking bolts in it, and SHUT THE FUCK UP CHAD!!!
or, better yet, how about making a NEW hard point, that will pass the test?? I forgot, chad and his " little " truck are somehow immune to rules, because of " how light " it is and how its just a " little sami ", all of chad's kollage knolege makes him " special "...
hopefully we get the " chad martin " clause installed before dresser ,so that we can have our pal out in the woods....
or better yet,
lets have a special chad martin tech sheet...only good for chad martin, and no one else...would that then make you not bitch, huh rusty???
" bitch, bitch, bitch "
god you make me sick martin....all of your pompas chest beating about your education and how people don't " respect you " and how much fucking smarter you are than everyone...
stick all of that up your ass, right next to the legos, and the two fistfulls of sand...
PROVE ALL THIS SHIT BY YOUR ACTIONS, NOT BY PISSING AND MAONING ABOUT HOW UNFAIR THINGS ARE, AND HOW THEY NEED TO CHANGE TO MAKE IT BETTER FOR YOU!!
EVERYONE ELSE PLAYS BY THESE " FUCKED-UP " RULES, IF YOU DO NOT LIKE THEM, DO EVERYONE AROUND YOU THE FAVOR, AND STAY FUCKING HOME.
PLAIN AND FUCKING SIMPLE CHAD.
[This message has been edited by cramer (edited 05-09-2002).]
My truck isn't broken so why the fuck do I need to fix it?
I just can't belive you're not supporting me on this issue.....I figured a good friend like you would at least get me a sticker knowing that what i have is a very sound setup for the application. Or somewhat back me up with the powers that be?
I mean christ, he basically told me that ARB dosn't know how to design mounting systems!!! Do you defend that statement?!
Ya know what, yes, i could go and just change my truck. But, I shouldn't have too. The pull point i have is sound!! Further, I belive that modifying the bumper and frame to accept thoes size of bolts would actually make the whole setup unsafe and much less strong.
Why are you such a sucker. Cramer can bait you in time after time, it never gets old.
quote:
Originally posted by Chadwick:
I'm NOT "beating my chest" or "bragging" but when you come after me like you do do you expect me to lie down and take it all the time??My truck isn't broken so why the fuck do I need to fix it?
___Because it does not pass tech chad, can you not understand fucking english???_____I just can't belive you're not supporting me on this issue.....I figured a good friend like you would at least get me a sticker knowing that what i have is a very sound setup for the application. Or somewhat back me up with the powers that be?
_____oh, ok...
then when shit goes wrong, and they want to know who's name is on it, then what pal???
i have a REAL hard time beliving that in a simialr situation, that YOU would do what you are asking of me.... FUCK YOU._____I mean christ, he basically told me that ARB dosn't know how to design mounting systems!!! Do you defend that statement?!
____I was not there, and I AM NOT going to take your word on this issue, you spazed out about this up at dresser, I did not want to deal with you or this shit while we were there, and I am getting sick of this shit now._____Ya know what, yes, i could go and just change my truck. But, I shouldn't have too.
___but if you want to go to Dresser and run your truck, you WILL HAVE TO!____
The pull point i have is sound!!
_____according to YOU. And you are who again???_____
Further, I belive that modifying the bumper and frame to accept thoes size of bolts would actually make the whole setup unsafe and much less strong.
~~At no time did I say CHANGE ALL THE BOLTS TO 1/2 INCH HARDWEAR. I AM STATING, FOLLOW THE FUCKING RULES MARTIN, AND YOU CAN READ, ( OR I THOUGHT YOU COULD ), SO, PLAY THE FUCKING GAME, OR STAY FUCKING HOME!!!!!!!!!!!!!
DO YOU UNDERSTAND THAT???????
[This message has been edited by cramer (edited 05-09-2002).]
quote:
Originally posted by Chadwick:
You spaz out about stuff, does that make your point any less valid?
so is that all that you gathered from all of the exchanges...christ your beginning to be like fucking giefer....
about validity....
because I call you on your CONSTANT WHINING about this shit, am I wrong for questioning your FUCKING SANITY???? or your mechanical aptitude??? or how about your DIPLAYED LACK OF COMPREHENSION SKILLS???
If I had no expierence in being an idiot chad, i guess that you could be angry at me for pointing out to you how BIG OF A FUCKING MORON YOU ARE BEING, but i do happen to have a little expierence in that area, along with a few others..
you can laugh your ass of when all of my shit fails...because its only a matter of time...
[This message has been edited by cramer (edited 05-09-2002).]
[This message has been edited by cramer (edited 05-09-2002).]
I don't belive that i am constantly whining about this shit.
I don't just lye down and take it when i dissagree with something someone says or does. Like spraying dirt all over my truck for no good reason. Just because it is a nissan dosn't mean that i didn't pay alot for it or that i don't take care of it. So when someone has no regard for my property i think it is pretty "valid" for me to at least be upset. Someone was being a dumbass, and it pissed me off. Simillarly but not with the same extent of a dumbass droping a tree on the canopy last year. Especially being i had not slept at all the night before. (yes i know i have issues with judgment on no sleep)
And i was acting like a pussy, but fuck! i'm not perfect either.
I don't remember ever complaining in a NON-JOKING way about rain or mud or anything else. I've been out in the rain and cold camping ALL MY LIFE. I LIVE FOR BEING OUT IN THE WEATHER! It is nothing new to me and i actually enjoy it. So fuck anyone that thinks that I complain about that.
This situation is different, I'm not complaining, I'm questioning. And i will do so on my own, I appoligize for even ever mentioning it to you, or thinking you would be interested in the problem.
I'll resolve the issue one way or another.
quote:
Originally posted by Jomama:
Dude, FUCK YOU....... and get help!
did I hit a nerve??
What kind of help are you suggesting???
[This message has been edited by cramer (edited 05-09-2002).]
I should probably just go home roll the thing out of my garage and start it on fire tonight allong with my nissan. Then call the insurance company, take the money from comprehensive and go buy a ford. That way when the inevidable does happen (now that i have fully doomed myself) I have something besides myslef to blame, like any good american......
you are so much fun!!!
oh, and by the way chad...
fix your broken front hard-point, or leave the sami at home.
Fucks uttered: 30
Times Chad was insulted: 412
Times Cramer was insulted: 7
Times Chad kissed Cramers ass before insulting him: 7
Times Eric will get smoked for this: 39
Times Eric will be bothered by it: 4 (Hey words can hurt too)
Times Eric will want to come to Dresser with you guys: 1 (Possibly for the last weekend)
Probablitiy that Eric will show up: 58%
People who will care either way: 3.7
People who got caught, hook, line & sinker, by Cramer on this post: 1
Final Score:
Cramer 52
Chad 7
Just givin ya'll shit. Very entertaining post.
I only get sucked in when i allow myself to be. Belive me, I bit on purpose.
[This message has been edited by Chadwick (edited 05-09-2002).]
Chad bites everytime! So does Giefer but only once on this thread.
I hope you make it Eric - I would love to do the megaphone thing again at the gate after bar close. Mike will be there this year and he can fuck with people to rival even you, Eric. lol
[This message has been edited by Klaus (edited 05-09-2002).]
quote:
Originally posted by Chadwick:
LOLI only get sucked in when i allow myself to be. Belive me, I bit on purpose.
[This message has been edited by Chadwick (edited 05-09-2002).]
To prove what again???
[This message has been edited by cramer (edited 05-10-2002).]
If you are planning on going, please get in contact with me, so that I can get you on a list for that weekend.
As of right now, it's looking positive.
here is some notes on your " topic "...
If you need it, I would be happy to READ them to you....perhaps helping you to UNDERSTAND the MEANING..( again, a reference to the LACK of comprehension skills you seem to diplay FREQUENTLY )
**SECURE PLACE TO HOOK
Must have at least one of the following front and rear:
* Hook secured with two 1/2” or bigger, grade 5 or better
bolts. (Backing plates highly recommended.)
Did we lose you yet??? perhaps GO BACK and READ through it AGAIN..
**SECURE PLACE TO HOOK
Must have at least one of the following front and rear:
* Hook secured with two 1/2” or bigger, grade 5 or better
bolts. (Backing plates highly recommended.)
ONE MORE TIME????
**SECURE PLACE TO HOOK
Must have at least one of the following front and rear:
* Hook secured with two 1/2” or bigger, grade 5 or better
bolts. (Backing plates highly recommended.)
How about it once more....
**SECURE PLACE TO HOOK
Must have at least one of the following front and rear:
* Hook secured with two 1/2” or bigger, grade 5 or better
bolts. (Backing plates highly recommended.)
Incase you were " distracted " ....
**SECURE PLACE TO HOOK
Must have at least one of the following front and rear:
* Hook secured with two 1/2” or bigger, grade 5 or better
bolts. (Backing plates highly recommended.)
Are you still there????
**SECURE PLACE TO HOOK
Must have at least one of the following front and rear:
* Hook secured with two 1/2” or bigger, grade 5 or better
bolts. (Backing plates highly recommended.)
OR
* Receivers can be used following these requirements:
vehicles with a gross weight over 4,000 lbs. must have
a minimum 2” receiver; vehicles with a gross weight
under 4,000 lbs. must have a minimum 1-1/4” receiver.
All receivers must be properly bolted with grade 5 or
better bolts. You may be required to remove any other
style hitch.
*******Unsafe hooks must be removed.********
What about this one???
I guess that front bumper needs to be cut off...oh well, you should be able to get 50 bucks for it and the " winch " on E-bay...
Good luck!!
[This message has been edited by cramer (edited 05-10-2002).]
...it only says that a HOOK needs to be attached with 1/2” or bigger, grade 5 or better bolts. It doesn’t say anything about how the bumper needs to be attached. I don't even remember seeing a hook on the sKammi. Chad, just add a hook to the bottom of the front frame horn mounted with two grade 5 1/2" bolts.
I have decided that the easiest option was to just sell the truck. I posted it on a suzuki site. Some guy is coming over to look at it this weekend. He says if it starts he will give me 2000$. If he actually does im gonna take it....
[This message has been edited by Chadwick (edited 05-10-2002).]
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'Cause I know you won't FIX IT!!!
Someone tell me what the code is?
It's true, it's true, I'll be at the X-fest that weekend.
I threw a dib-flank cost manuevering axle trithe raised up shock absorption powder hinge slip knock do whacker on the Sunfire's front right, left rear port quarter stack handler panel, but it didn't take like I thought it would. THEN, I hammered out a 1/4" 3 foot girder girdle grill dismemberment posset, and that just fucked everything up! So I had to throw a ball limited slip differential cowbell lug nut bolt screw up in the shaft barrel, with the cracker barrel, and right down into the core. It liked that, as I got 200 more cc's. Then my pistons pistolled up through the block, and I was left with nothing but a 4 banger.
So I decided to go get fucked up and watch rockers and breasts.
Have fun you guys, maybe we'll come visit!
Also, who is planning on working in the woods? We won't have the little trailer this year. We'll need extra space to haul equipment to and from the woods but we don't want to turn the base of Nasty into a parking lot...
Snow is in the forecast, so bring your boots, mittens, hats, and hollow-filled's. Last I heard there was a chance of about 3-4" on Friday night!!
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Originally posted by Chadwick:
I was planing on helping out in the woods.
Ummmm,
how....and with what??
At one point, Mike W. said that he had a " few " extra grills...swing by and get one or two..
I received speaker box/amp yesterday and wired it last night. Sounds good, about the same level as the old one, but a bit cleaner because it is three-way. While I was wiring it Steve was going through the garage and finding all the parts for the loud speaker amp, so I assume he wants to do that again this year.
I have an extra propane upright grill at my house. Mike has a few of the smaller propane grills at his house. I don’t have room in my truck on the way out Thursday night for the large grill but if anyone does let me know and you can come get it.
Has anyone found a fridge to put at camp ground gate? A freezer would be really nice – I hate paying the price for ice in Dresser.
How are the 4wheelers getting out to Dresser?
How many gallons of eagan water do you request this year?
Since i do not live in eagan anymore i will have to come up to your place to fill your order.
But! be assured i can cary as much as you wish, being that both my trucks are now equiped with Old Man Emu XL Rear Springs.
Please place your order ASAP so i can engineer a proper recepticle.
Sleeps 15 - only costs $4,200
I filled the propane tank for the big grill we have so it's good to go but then I realized I can't get it in my truck because the tailgate is hosed. I might be able to disassemble it and take it piecemeal, we'll see. Hopefully, my dad and I will be able to finish replacing my alternator tomorrow.
I'll help out at the hill too. I plan on going out Thurs. morning. Bring the loudspeaker if you would Pfaff, we can jury-rig something if the pole is damaged.
[This message has been edited by ProfBooty (edited 05-21-2002).]