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[QUOTE]Originally posted by BoondockSaint: [QB] The "spin" is what kills me. Everyone has a certain "spin" that allows them to hear what they want to hear. Watch how many times the great speech (my opinion) that Bush gave last night is overlooked in favor of the left saying "Oh, so now Rumsfeld is Secretary Of State?" and then chuckling as if that was the most important thing said last night. Hear what you want, but all I'm asking is for Kerry's STANCES on the issues, and I'm getting nothing but the standard Kerry supporter game. Well, he did this and this and this and blah blah blah...okay, that's not what I asked. I want to know what he stands for, other than "I'm opposite of everything Bush stands for." Which if you read into it, it means that Kerry is against peace in the Middle East. Kerry is against the U.S. being a world superpower. He's against people earning their own money. He's against tighter security on our borders. So with Kerry as President we can expect a U.S. where people from all nations come and go unchecked, get free money from us (the working class), the U.S. will no longer be involved in Peacekeeping missions around the world, and terrorism will go unchallenged? I have to believe there is more to him than this... Ask your liberal buddies what Kerry stands for Joe, as I don't intentionally talk shop with any of them because the ones that I do know (KITTY, Listen up!) have nothing of substance to say. They're loud, they interrupt and they get emotional way too fast. They divert the conversation and direct the conversation in a direction that will allow them to make a point. Mind you this point is completely off the topic of the original conversation, but it still makes them feel good, and they think they "won" the argument. The condescending conversations that I've had with them, the looking down pitifully at the poor conservative who has "never looked at the other side of the issues", and the blind assumption that he/she is smarter than you makes me sick to my stomach. They assume that because they believe the conspiracy theories set forth by the Left that they are somehow "better" than the rest of us, or that they "see" something that we don't see. These are observations from conversations I've HAD, Joe, so while I may be generalizing to a certain extent, I have a basis for this generalization. When more than one person say the same thing, you can assume that there are more people that think that way from the same party, right? I'm not one to believe that ALL of those on the Left are that crazy (sorry, that's my word for it), but they're the ones who are getting all the attention and the most press...right? I think I'd be pretty pissed if I was a "normal" Democrat, because these ultra-leftists sometimes come across as the default Democrat... Anyway, sorry, too much Pepsi this morning... My bottom line on this years election is this: Bush has many problems, but he is a wartime President who has brought stability to the very heart of our enemies. Anyone who argues that doesn't know what they're talking about because that's what he's done. Yes, soldiers are dying, yes bodies are being mutilated, but it's also a fucking WAR. Do the math...how many Iraqi's died at the hand of Saddam? He may not be the sharpest knife in the drawer, but he's doing a better job than Gore would have. He's done more to fight terrorism in 4 years than Clinton did in 8...and how many terrorist attacks happened on Clinton's watch? The only reason I'm asking is because if Kerry is elected and we're attacked, the response will be about as effective as Clintons: launch a strike missile into the desert, send troops in for stabilization but if they start getting killed, bring 'em on home and let the terrorists win. Sorry, I'm going off here...I gotta go eat. :mad: :rolleyes: :beer: [/QB][/QUOTE]
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